Marvin Shilmer
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Camping and Watchtower
by JWdaughter incampings org releases their financials.
camping humbly apologized for making predictions and gave it up declaring that he was searching scriptures to be more faithful.. anyway, he had a lot in common with wt belief that all other churches are apostate.
i think the ministry is really struggling.
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OF DOGS AND BITES AND BIKES AND THINGS
by Terry inthe thought suddenly struck me plain and obvious: "these dogs won't stop until i'm good and bloody.".
there were two of them; a mixed breed of boxer and pit bull; clean, white--collared, tagged and--for some inexplicable reason, ferociously intent on tearing me to shreds!.
ah, but i'm getting ahead of myself.
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Marvin Shilmer
I must ride a bit faster then you, Terry. I had two come after me just today on a long ride. I sped up and kicked the shit out of the first one that got close enough for me to pile drive with my cleats. He left bloody and whining like a puppy.
Seriously though, I'm glad you're okay and glad that you reported the incident to authorities. Terry's life matters!
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Advance Directives and the JW Patient
by Lee Elder inadvance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.
with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.
physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.
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Marvin Shilmer
Doctors are right to be concerned when an unconscious JW comes into the ER with a advance directive. Speaking with JW family members is seldom helpful.
Indeed!
In addition there is the problem of hopelessly incomplete Watchtower documents which do not address some rather important "fractions" that are accepted under its ridiculous blood taboo. One important component that JWs are free to accept is called cryo-poor plasma (also known as cryosupernatant). Nowhere does Watchtower speak to this blood product though it knows it has saved the life of many a JW.
For readers who want to know more about this subject see: Over 96% Accept 99%!
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Introducing...ME
by Heartsafire inlong time lurker here.
i'm a fifth gen born-in baptized jw.
to say i've been struggling with doubts is an understatement.
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Marvin Shilmer
Hi Heartsafire,
As you recognize, you're not alone in your circumstance, findings and feelings. You'll find lots of kindred here.
Check your PM account.
Best regards,
Marvin Shilmer
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The right to shun - wrong?
by Simon inmany people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.
it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.
of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.
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Marvin Shilmer
When it comes to shunning and potential statutory remedies to lessen harm there are two areas to concentrate on.
1. The distinction of personal preference to shun versus organized communal shunning.
2. Whether a particular shunning presents undue influence over something with a State interest.
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Do they notice who no longer gives donations?
by onightdivine inbecause i haven't put in a single dime for over a year now in the box at the kh.
the usual custom is to put money in there right after the meetings.
but heck, i already spend so much in car fuel just to attend - i don't care really if the gb starves and dies.. oops.. anyway, do the elders take note who's donating and who's not?.
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Marvin Shilmer
Neither local elders nor the Watchtower Society has a process to determine whether particular individuals donate or not.
On the other hand local elders and the Watchtower Society does have a process in place to determine whether a particular congregation is donating or not by comparison with other congregations in the area or elsewhere. This is a statistic that is watched very closely inside Watchtower as an early warning of something going awry. Watchtower crunches these numbers every way you can imagine for a range of reasons including 1) whether something's going wrong with a congregation, a circuit, a circuit overseer, an internal Branch attendant charged with overseeing a particular geographical area, and 2) projecting future cash flows.
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Ways to raise an eyebrow or two with bro/sis perfect!
by Truthexplorer injusmy wife and i were out in the ministry today and she was expressing her annoyance at brother perfectionist in our hall and how he is beginning to annoy her as nit picks over everything that the more liberal witnesses view as ok. so we were having some fun about what we could say to him that would really raise his eye brows.
she then suggested i say ' hey brother perfect, you'll never guess what happened to me.
i was sitting on the toilet when to my shock and horror, there was no toilet paper left.
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Marvin Shilmer
There was a watchtower lying on the unit next to me that I was able to use.
I've actually seen this in the outhouse of a now deceased JW who was so stalwart as a JW that he served time in jail for breaking blue laws back in the 50s for door-to-door preaching (which at the time and locale was deemed a commercial activity). He had a whole stack of them, and it was the good stuff (like the index pages from the old Sears and Roebuck catalog, the ole-timers know what I mean)!
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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Marvin Shilmer
It only "seems" like there may be a link because both involve guns but there is no causal relationship as far as I'm concerned.
The cultural bravado of persons willing to prepare themselves with firearms to use in defense of themselves and others is a natural corollary to a willingness to enter live-fire conflicts for essentially the same purpose on a larger scale.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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Marvin Shilmer
The US culture had nothing todo with their entry into the war.
Uh... Whatever was the then US culture either would stand for a declaration of war on Germany and Japan or not. It did. Culture had everything to do with every nation's entry (or not) into conflicts of the 20th Century.
Basically, the obsession with guns now has nothing whatsoever to do with the US involvement in WWII.
Who's said otherwise?
Cultures change, and the US culture has surely changed a great deal since the mid-20th Century. Per capita of Euro-explorers/settlers gun ownership on the territory known today as the USA has been prevalent since they immigrated to its shores. It turned out to be an essential element of how the US survived as a nation. Having and owning this personal protective gear and being willing to use it is deep rooted in US culture. My take on current US culture is that gun ownership provisions have been hijacked by paranoids (think: NRA leadership) so that responsible gun ownership has been turned on its head to allow rogue members of society to too easily get their hands on firearms.
As US culture continues to changed I think the day will come and should come when access to firearms in the USA is much tighter than it is today. I don't know when, and I don't know how, but I think the day will come, and probably the result of the whole world advancing socially and not so much just the USA.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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Marvin Shilmer
Honestly, the low hanging fruit on the subject of this thread is requiring gun owners to secure their arms and penalizing them severely if they do not.
It's sad that this has not already taken root and been firmly planted in the USA by both state and federal statutes. It's a fairly rare thing to hear about a parent/guardian serving jail time for leaving firearms available to children who end up hurting/killing someone with them. We spend more time hunting down peaceful users of Mary Jane and punishing them while law-abiding gun owners leave loaded guns accessible to kids. Maybe we need an AGM (All Guns Matter) movement.